Will we see players kneel?

[Benton]

(09-25-2017, 03:10 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I said "net worth".

Forbes says his net worth is $3.5 billion.

No matter which way you try to approach this, it's undeniable that Trump has been successful in business. It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

That's been pretty well considered why he doesn't want to release tax returns or some other types of disclosures. His net worth has ranged from (according to him) several billion to (according to some others) a few hundred million.

But it's not so far fetched to point out his business failure, despite whether he's worth millions or billions. 

http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/

Quote:Trump's net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.

The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.

Other billionaires' net worths have beaten the stock market's growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet's wealth grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.

Although, to be fair, other people have claimed this isn't true.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/

Quote:The only way to hit the $8 billion mark is to start with $200 million in 1982, and it's wrong to say that was Trump's father's money. While the father's business put Trump on the path to have $200 million in 1982, Trump himself had been running the company for eight years. 

By their estimate, Trump couldn't have made more money not doing anything as he was only given tens of millions and not hundreds of millions to start out with. Either way, I don't consider failing excessively as success, even if you still come out with money.