09-29-2017, 11:06 PM
(09-29-2017, 05:27 PM)Dill Wrote: Actually, Matt, misogyny does mean "hate." That's one of the points which distinguish it from "sexism." Hate can take the form of constant contempt for women, actively displayed. It is not cancelled because a misogynist brags that his wife and daughter are "hot" or hires some women in his business.
And it is not ok because Trump disparages other groups as well as women. What if some one said "Sure, Matt is bad at table tennis; but so what, he fails at other sports as well." Would you feel well defended?
And no one is saying Trump is a misogynist because he isn't a voice for women or doesn't care about them. They are saying he is a misogynist because of the things he says and does. E.g., tweeting insults about the aging Kim Novack's plastic surgery, some one he doesn't even know. And of course grabbing "p"--that's walkin' the walk, not just talkin' the talk. It would be rather twisted to argue Trump's groping proves he loves women.
If Trump publicly made disparaging comments about the way black people look and punched one and said "I get angry when blacks don't shine my shoes right," no one would say he was just "saying bad things about people" and that doesn't amount to hating or not caring about black people.
Dill, the point of saying "Trump insults other people too" is to point out the fact that insults do not make you a misogynist. Saying you grope women does not make you a misogynist. What makes someone a misogynist is their hatred for women. Saying you grab women by the area means you hate women? Sorry but I have to disagree.
Trump has shown that he is someone who regularly attacks people who are against him. If Jeb Bush was a woman everyone would still be talking about how badly Trump treated him. But hey, he's a man so who cares.
