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Obama Shames Voters
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(09-30-2017, 04:54 AM)hollodero Wrote: I assume political leaning because a) I have no other explanation and b) I'm always right on that one :) I'd guess you vote conservative, more importantly not democratic, and I don't mean anything bad by it. I just don't get the perspectives. If I were to sort the most outrageous, divisive or inappropriate comments in your political sphere, this Michelle one, no matter how you feel the term misogyny is percieved, couldn't possibly make the top 500. Not with this competition from POTUS account.

I share your perplexity. 

The criticism of Michelle here seems an attempt to elevate--or reduce--her comments to the level of a Trump insult.  That involves overgeneralizing, like claiming she is berating people for just having a "different opinion" and that is basically all Trump does as well.

And you have to argue that Michelle's behavior is worse than it is. She is saying women should vote for women, etc. and that's liberal hypocrisy because before she urged women to vote for a man, her husband. The actual point Michelle was making about women's interests and "voice" is ignored.  Has to be to effect the reduction.

From the other end, it is argued that Trump's behavior is not really as bad as it is, not really misogynistic, just garden variety insulting of everyone.

Eventually, we reach the point where people don't like Trump because they Democrats, not because of what he actually says or does.

I do think though there is recognition among Trump supporters that defending Trump is a special problem. Before it was so much easier to dismiss criticism of a political leader and those who support him with a dismissive "both sides do it."  Now one has to constantly redefine standards downward and bend logic and trash definitions to render Trump not-really-all-that-bad.

 
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Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-28-2017, 10:09 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Matt_Crimson - 09-28-2017, 11:12 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 09-29-2017, 12:09 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-28-2017, 11:32 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - TheLeonardLeap - 09-28-2017, 11:57 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 09-29-2017, 12:39 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 01:24 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 01:15 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 01:27 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 02:19 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 05:43 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 05:57 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 06:11 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 09-29-2017, 06:42 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 07:41 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vas Deferens - 09-29-2017, 08:50 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - TheLeonardLeap - 09-30-2017, 03:46 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-29-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-30-2017, 05:57 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-30-2017, 06:51 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-30-2017, 07:33 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-30-2017, 09:12 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-30-2017, 09:15 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-30-2017, 09:20 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-30-2017, 10:42 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-30-2017, 11:09 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-30-2017, 11:15 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 10-01-2017, 01:43 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 04:18 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-01-2017, 10:32 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 11:07 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-01-2017, 11:18 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-01-2017, 11:54 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 12:24 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 10-01-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 10-01-2017, 07:58 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 10-01-2017, 12:16 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 09-30-2017, 11:46 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 10-01-2017, 01:38 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-30-2017, 11:18 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 10-01-2017, 12:31 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 10-01-2017, 01:35 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 04:10 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-30-2017, 07:06 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-30-2017, 12:47 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-30-2017, 10:16 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-30-2017, 10:58 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vas Deferens - 09-29-2017, 12:54 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Nebuchadnezzar - 09-29-2017, 05:50 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 09-29-2017, 09:09 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 01:31 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-29-2017, 09:17 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 10:53 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-29-2017, 10:56 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 09-29-2017, 11:03 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 09-29-2017, 08:58 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-29-2017, 09:04 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Matt_Crimson - 09-29-2017, 09:20 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-29-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - hollodero - 09-29-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Matt_Crimson - 09-29-2017, 02:29 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - hollodero - 09-29-2017, 04:44 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Matt_Crimson - 09-29-2017, 10:32 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - hollodero - 09-30-2017, 04:54 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-30-2017, 05:47 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Matt_Crimson - 10-01-2017, 09:38 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 10-01-2017, 09:54 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - hollodero - 10-02-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Matt_Crimson - 09-29-2017, 11:06 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-30-2017, 03:45 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Benton - 09-29-2017, 10:00 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-29-2017, 10:07 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-29-2017, 10:15 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-29-2017, 10:18 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 10:55 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 09-29-2017, 02:55 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 09-29-2017, 10:58 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 09-29-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Dill - 09-29-2017, 01:21 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 09-29-2017, 11:08 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Nately120 - 09-29-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Millhouse - 09-29-2017, 01:50 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 09-29-2017, 02:58 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - TheLeonardLeap - 09-29-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 09-29-2017, 10:55 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vas Deferens - 09-29-2017, 09:37 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 09-29-2017, 09:42 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-29-2017, 10:03 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 10:23 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 09-30-2017, 12:47 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 09-29-2017, 10:13 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 09-30-2017, 12:11 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - NATI BENGALS - 09-29-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-29-2017, 11:14 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - NATI BENGALS - 09-29-2017, 11:59 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 10-01-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 09-29-2017, 11:00 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - 6andcounting - 09-30-2017, 09:02 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 09-30-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Vlad - 10-01-2017, 07:37 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 10-01-2017, 08:00 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 10:24 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 10-01-2017, 10:30 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 10-01-2017, 02:35 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 05:43 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-01-2017, 05:45 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 05:48 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-01-2017, 05:53 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 06:13 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-01-2017, 06:41 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 11:32 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-01-2017, 11:38 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 08:18 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-02-2017, 08:58 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 11:21 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-02-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 11:33 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 10-02-2017, 11:42 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-02-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 12:11 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 12:09 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 10-02-2017, 01:42 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 10-02-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 11:30 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 08:38 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 08:26 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-02-2017, 09:01 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - GMDino - 10-02-2017, 09:08 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-01-2017, 05:46 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - JustWinBaby - 10-01-2017, 10:20 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 10-02-2017, 08:05 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - StLucieBengal - 10-02-2017, 08:36 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - BmorePat87 - 10-02-2017, 08:45 AM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - Belsnickel - 10-02-2017, 01:36 PM
RE: Obama Shames Voters - bfine32 - 10-02-2017, 02:49 PM

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