Rank Dalton Among All QB's

[Shake n Blake]

(10-09-2017, 04:50 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I put him somewhere between 15-16.

I take these guys over him:
-Brady
-Alex Smith (11 TD 0 Int this year)
-Rodgers
-Brees
-Carr
-Cousins
-Newton
-Wentz
-Goff
-Stafford
-Dak Prescott
-Winston
-Russell Wilson
-Matt Ryan
-Roethlisberger (had 1 bad game but you'd still take him over Dalton.)

I think he falls into this list somewhere depending on preference. I think I'd take Watson over him...but not Manning and maybe Rivers.

-Eli Manning
-Rivers
-Watson

Here's the full list:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING

Of the guys you listed, I'm taking Dalton over...

Alex Smith - a hot start doesn't make him any better, just as a cold start for Ben doesn't make him worse than Andy
Cam Newton - I have him in the same tier as Andy, but I always prefer pocket passers over runners
Stafford - Flip a coin. They're similar to me, but Dalton has a better career passer rating by almost 2 points.
Wentz - He's off to a good start this year. Not sold enough to pick him over a guy with Dalton's resume, yet.
Dak Preskott - Same thing as Wentz, and Dak predictably has come back to earth a bit since last year. We'll see how he handles not having Zeke.
Winston - I guess this is another guy we're supposed to believe is better than Andy, even though Andy's career rating is 3 full points higher.
Jared Goff - He's had what...3 good games? Damn.

Russell Wilson - Here's Dalton and Wilson's stats since the start of last year:

Wilson
Passing: 464-724-5441-29-14 (92.1 rating)
Rushing: 102-413-2
Sacks: 54

Dalton
Passing: 468-722-5426-25-14 (90.9 rating)
Rushing: 60-220-4
Sacks: 56

It's uncanny how similar all of these stats are, yet Dalton has been roasted for his play, while Wilson gets showered with pity for how bad his line is. I give Dalton the edge for putting up these numbers with a coordinator that's so bad the players had a revolt to get him fired. Not to mention Pete Carroll >>> Marvin.

So I guess I'd put Dalton between 10th and 14th. As I said, you could flip a coin between Dalton and guys like Wilson, Newton and Stafford. It's funny though. I read off those names and my initial reaction is that Dalton doesn't belong with them. The media and fans have dogged Dalton for so long that you start to doubt the guy based on the narratives. But the numbers and wins just tell a completely different story. 

That's why I've always preferred objective facts over subjective opinions.