Well, well, well...

[*PhilHos*]

(10-23-2017, 09:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Who do we blame?  Sure, Marvin is an easy target, he's the Head Coach after all.  However personally, I feel like Marvin is doing the very best that he can, with what he has to work with.  So, the only fault I can lay on him is for continuing to play the role of Head Coach.

The real blame is where it's been since 1991, our owner, Mr. Mike Brown.  His "methods" have made it so that a team that had 3 likely HOFers (Whit, Atkins, Dunlap) are all likely to finish their careers without having challenged for, let alone competed in a Championship game.  In my opinion, the Bengals organization is a fantastic bureaucracy.  They do very well at perpetuating their existence, and growing their accumulative wealth.  But to what end?  They're never going to be the richest on any list.  Why not invest in a Championship?  Then they would at least have a legacy tribute to Paul Brown completed.

In the grand scheme of things, Brown is to blame, yes. However, Marvin is still in direct control of whether we can win or lose. We have been a talented team for much of Lewis' tenure. Aside from years we were hit hard with the injury bug, a majority of our losses were in games we were simply outcoached. Yes, sometimes players in key positions had bad games and sometimes we ran into a better team (bette rin all aspects), but generally most of our losses were due to some aspect of coaching, whether it is in lack of proper preparation, bad gameplans, bad in-game decisions, etc.

Mike Brown is ultimately responsible, but Marvin has his share as well. PLUS, it's easier to get Marvin replaced than it is to get Brown replaced.

(10-24-2017, 11:29 AM)bengals67 Wrote: Marvin is one of the worst coaches in NFL history.

No, he's not. He's not even one of the worst Bengals coaches He has his issues and his time in Cincy should definitely be done, but let's not re-write history because we want a new HC.