11-02-2017, 08:28 PM
(11-02-2017, 12:46 PM)hollodero Wrote: Putting the baggage of the word "resistance" aside: Why haven't you? To me, that's one of the most interesting questions surrounding the rise of the Trump. People like you that is, if I may put you in a "people like you" box for once. (It's ok, it's an 100% honorable box.)
It's not very complicated at all. Trump isn't doing anything he didn't say he would do when he was running for office. The vast majority of the things he is doing would have been done by any GOP candidate who became POTUS. I don't agree with a lot of it, but the man was elected in the same way we've elected all our Presidents. I see no difference in "resisting" his agenda then the people who "resisted" everything Obama did. Yes, Obama wasn't nearly as extreme in most ways and he certainly is a much more personable human being than Trump. That doesn't mean people can't vehemently disagree with his policies. He was right when he said elections have consequences, simply throwing a tantrum because the person you don't like won is childish to me.
It also has to do with the way so much of the objections are stated and carried out. Don't want immigration enforcement? Fine, then be honest and say that anyone who wants to come here doesn't have to obey our immigration laws. What you don't get to do, and where you lose me, is claiming we have no right to enforce immigration laws or that doing so is "racist". You don't like Betsy DeVos because of her policies, fine. What you don't get to do is obstruct her from even visiting a school in her official capacity. You don't want Milo to speak at your school, fine, protest away. What you don't get to do is attack people who are going to see him, start fires and vandalize property.
The day after the election there were calls to impeach Trump. Maxine Waters has been shrieking "IMPEACH" from day one. I can't take anyone seriously who goes for the nuclear option as the first option.
In short, I don't like extremism. I also don't think everyone who doesn't share my opinion on every issue is either an idiot or evil. I'm staunchly pro-choice but I also understand that many pro-life (anti-choice) people honestly believe that an abortion is the murder of a baby. I don't agree, but I don't think any of us would stand by and watch someone kill a baby if we honestly thought that was occurring.
Lastly, I loathe inconsistent opinions, nothing turns me off to a movement or an person faster. Both sides are guilty of this, but it seems the party currently on the outside looking in is always the worst offender.
Quote:I don't know about "insanely" though. Going after easily available guns is somewhat different then going after people.
This is a whole can of worms, but "easily available" is the norm in the United States and has been forever. My father mentioned shopping as a kid and there was a barrel of military surplus rifles at the end of the aisle, you just pick it up, add it to the cart, pay for it and leave. There is also zero consistency on the anti-gun side. They oppose Trump's tough on crime stance, pointing out that violent crime had been dropping every year since 1992. They then completely ignore this fact and claim that we currently suffer from an "epidemic" of gun violence.
I could go on for pages but I'm sure you get the point.
