11-03-2017, 11:18 AM
(11-02-2017, 09:44 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The GOP has a lot of neocons, which do have some progressive tendencies. However, the men you just listed are also a part of the GOP establishment. Both political party establishments are large umbrellas because of there being only two major parties. In addition to that, you really just throw the term "progressive" around for any conservative that doesn't embrace the populist messaging we are seeing with whatever the hell is going on with the right at the moment. But keep in mind that this populism is not a part of conservatism. Never has been.
I know you do focus on interventionist policies and globalism as hallmarks of progressivism, and it is true that for decades the two have been hand-in-hand thanks to neoconservative and neoliberal movements, but globalism has always been a more conservative policy position because free trade is a capitalist dream.
Long story short, you're calling lots of things progressive with a brush that is far too broad, and it is quite possible that you, yourself, are not actually a conservative when you dig into the core ideologies of these things.
Please explain how those three guys are establishment. Also why don’t you define what is GOP establishment.
Intervention and globalism is focused on here because it’s a focus of threads on this forum. We all discuss the News of the day.
