Manafort and Gates Charged

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(11-03-2017, 06:53 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The English language is full of syntax, that has many of us that learned it as our native language, questioning it's reason for being as it is.  Honestly, I would say that somewhere down the line, they used to pronounce it differently, with annunciation of the c.  However, as people tend to get lazy, speak faster, etc., the c became silent.

That makes sense. Then again, the word "predict" presumably is more common than the word "indict" and yet you don't say "predite". If laziness is the cause, that laziness still is strangely selective here.

It really took me several minutes of news watching to get that that word they show in their bars is the same one they used in their talking. When I finally realized, a lightbulb popped up above my head. At least I presume.

(11-03-2017, 07:45 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Possibly.  Although Flynn's crime appears to be discussing sanctions as a private citizen....forget the specific statute, but it's only been used a handful of times and I don't believe ever successfully.  And more or less a technicality as he was on the transition team, but that's not a small issue as he hadn't been approved by Congress.

Add to that process crimes for lying/omission.  But it's curious to me why he wasn't indicted with this group.  Presumably, to indict Flynn you would need a new grand jury.  While it's possible one has already been convened, it would be somewhat unusual [in this specific case] not to have leaked.

Flynn could be one of the bigger fish they're hoping to leverage the other 3 against.  But is he really a bigger fish than Manafort and Gates?  Another possibility is the unmasking of Flynn doesn't hold up to judicial scrutiny, and without the wiretaps maybe they have nothing on him...which is why you'd need to try to leverage the other 3 to build a case against him (or, at least, have a more valid justification for unmasking).

Yep, all sound and legit possibilities. I do think there would be enough on Flynn without any possible tapes, that whole being an unregistered foreign agent thing alone. Not disclosing that kind of stuff on a security clearance just has to be a severe offense, I presume without knowing any detail. I guess he's not indicted yet because there's possibly still more to gather, but that's yet just another possibility. Way too early. Which is why I was a bit curious as why would one already speculate that there's probably nothing more.

Personally, I still believe in the end it's about Trump and Russian money laundering. I claim that's not so much some kind of malicious wishful thinking, it is indeed the only overall explanation that makes any sustainable sense to me. If I'm right and Mueller is as good as advertised, eventually Trump will fall and I will look so smart. Truth is of course that in the end I have no idea whatsoever, and why would I. But at least it's now getting really hard to believe that whole investigation is just smoke and mirrors and Manafort et al. are just righteous fellas all wrongfully accused. Doesn't it?