11-09-2017, 12:51 AM
(11-08-2017, 03:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I hate when people use stats like these because they're just such a silly point to try and make. The majority of that 12,000 number are suicides.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html
...In which it says more than 60% of gun deaths are suicides. The number is about 2/3rds.
The next biggest amount of that gun deaths number is gang violence, which are people who are using illegal weapons, likely selling illegal drugs, and committing other crimes, thus ignoring any laws which you may make.
Meanwhile in Japan they had over 32,800 suicides in 2009. Adjusted to the US population, that would be a little over 84,000 suicides here.
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So while Japan doesn't have the gun deaths of the US, their "rope deaths" and "volcano deaths" numbers are through the freaking ROOF compared to the US.
Here's how to get a rope in Japan:
-Go to the store.
-Buy it.
Here's how to visit a volcano in Japan:
-Go to the volcano.
They didn't solve any problems, the problem was just shifted and dispersed towards other methods.
I hate to contradict you because I agree with the intent of your message, but the 12,000 gun deaths you mention do not include suicides. We have ~36,000 gun deaths a year in this country, of which 2/3rd's are suicides. What is important is that around 80-90% of those 12,000 gun deaths are criminals killing other criminals. Chicago alone accounts for almost 1/12th of that number. So,the statistics clearly show that, excluding criminals, only 3,000 people a year are murdered with a firearm per year, the vast majority of them by a hand gun. So, you're in far more danger taking a shower or driving to work. You're far more likely to be killed by your own doctor than you are a person with a gun. Maybe we should start looking into the medical malpractice murder "epidemic"?
