KY school shooting

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(01-25-2018, 02:31 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Those are two separate outcomes though.  Is an inner city shooting that kills five but generates no outside sympathy not worthy of consideration?  I know this seems contradictory, and it is, just for you, not me.


The vast majority of homicides committed with a firearm are criminals killing other criminals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/27/new-evidence-confirms-what-gun-rights-advocates-have-been-saying-for-a-long-time-about-crime/?utm_term=.82ef1d5cf8be

The leading requirement for my honoring of those slain in the name of freedom is the randomness of the shooting, not the amount of sympathy given.  The simple concept of gang violence is that the participants are aware they are at risk, they have allegiances and labels that make them known allies and enemies, and that the fighting/shooting is done in order to protect territory/control/money etc.  These aren't random happenings and are far too systematic to fall under my criteria.  Side note, I find it interesting the fringe that doesn't understand systematic gang violence also proudly states if they see someone on their property they'll gladly open fire.  We don't call 911!  BANG, yer dead!  What's the difference?  You have to show people they can't infringe on your territory without facing consequence, right?

If I join the Sharks and I grab my gun and we go to war with the Jets I am more complicit in the action of shooting/being shot than if I work at the desk of a hospital and someone comes in and screams about baby parts and shoots me, or if I'm attending a college where some guy goes postal and so on and so forth, or if I'm going to high school, or at a concert and so on.  Doing things and being in places where a reasonable person could expect not to be shot and killed by a stranger for any reason.

As for criminals killing criminals, I bring that up because I used to live in Chicago and people have used the gang violence numbers to assure me that I was in constant danger, gun control doesn't work, and that my daily commute from Oak Park into the city was like living in a war zone. 

(01-24-2018, 06:50 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I also think such a memorial would be cynically twisted by gun control advocates who have already demonstrated on myriad occasions that they will not shrink from blatant falsehoods to push their agenda.

And Memorial Day and other monuments to honor those slain in combat can be cynically twisted into some sort of "let's stop going to war and getting people killed" sentiment.  So we can't honor people, lest some use their sacrifices to push their agenda?  Unfair.