01-26-2018, 03:45 PM
(01-26-2018, 02:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: With every Constitutional right the courts have to determine what limitations can be imposed in the name of public safety. That is why they have been able to put limits on free speech without completely eliminating the First Amendment. In fact they have even carved out exceptions to the Fourth Amendment. The key word in all of this judicial rulings is "reasonable", and I don't see anything unreasonable about requiring government regulation like licensing and registration of guns the exact same way as we treat other products that are a public safety issue.
You don't think it's unreasonable, others do.
Quote:BTW if police know where gangs hang out then why wouldn't they just get a warrant to search the location?
You really need to ask that question? Will a judge issue a search warrant because "gang members sometimes hang out there"?
(01-26-2018, 02:32 PM)fredtoast Wrote: If government regulations only effect law abiding citizens then why are so many people in jail for violating these regulations? That does not make any sense to me.
Is a person in jail for violating the law a "law abiding citizen?
Quote:I am not restricting the rights of any law abiding citizens. They are still free to own any legal firearm just the same as they are now.
Until the government decides what they bought legally is no longer legal and they then come for your property. It's already happening in CA, which is why you'll never get gun owners to agree to your proposal. Gun control advocates and politicians have proven time and again that they are dishonest about their ultimate goal. No one is buying your "common sense gun laws" approach because it's a smokescreen.
Quote:At this point it is impossible for a police officer to charge a person in possession of a stolen gun because a majority of the time the gun has not been reported stolen. We need additional regulation to make it possible to enforce the existing laws.
No, it's not impossible, you just admitted that "most of the time" it's not reported as stolen which means, "some of the time" it is. In those instances the person could, and would, be arrested for possession of a stolen gun.
Quote:The fact that 80% of violent gun crimes are committed by a person who is not the lawful owner of the gun proves to me that we need some additional regulation to restrict criminals access to stolen weapons.
It should prove to you that those people need to be in prison for a long time so they can't commit anymore crimes against the general public.
