08-30-2015, 12:23 PM
(08-30-2015, 12:13 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Two of the most, if not the most, influential thinkers of all time--Einstein and Newton-- both saw the order of the Universe. Newton was a believer in God, Einstein was a self-proclaimed agnostic (with a heavy lean towards Spinoza's Pantheism), but they both saw design or order in everything around us.
That's what scientists and mathematicians do. They make observations and look for possible explanations. If they can detect a recurring pattern or order to the way things happen, that helps lead them to the explanation. Logical thinkers are very linear and can see/find these patterns better than others. That is what makes them such great scientists. But finding order does not = finding design caused by another being.
Fractal geometry is now being investigated as the underlying pattern or order to all of nature from crystals, to the diameters of trees in a forest, to mountain ranges. If this is found to be true, it could be show than nature is not as overly complex as we are lead to believe. Nature simply follows a very basic pattern. Thermodynamics shows that all energy moves from order to chaos. But along the way to that disorder can be groupings of order. In other words, there can be pockets of order, as long as the overall scope eventually leads to disorder.
Both of these lead away from the idea of an intelligent design or a creator.
