Octopuses are Aliens

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(08-30-2015, 06:43 PM)Beaker Wrote: And what you aren't considering when believers call it "random" is that any probability statistic that they assign to it cannot be accurate. This is because all factors are not know, nor are they considered in any probability statistic. Newer discoveries such as dark matter and dark energy are yet to be fully comprehended. Thus, when a believer says you cannot comprehend the scope of god, I counter with you cannot comprehend the scope of nature. Once things like dark matter and dark energy are better understood, it could show that the formation of the universe was not random at all, but follows very established laws (patterns) of nature. So your whole argument about scientists won't consider the remote probability of total randomness is moot. It is not considered because the formation is not considered totally random to begin with as believers want to put forth.

1. I already know that a statistical probability in what we're discussing is only an estimate.
2. I agree that no one, at this time, can fully comprehend nature.
3. Any future discoveries that include structure, without discovering the source of the structure, are no different than the conclusions we have now.
4. I never once said scientists won't consider the possibility of randomness. 
5. I'm not worried about other "believers". Try and stick to things i'm typing without interjecting "whackjobs" opinions. 
6. This list is now 3 more than SCS would appreciate and i don't think he agrees with multiples. But whatever.

I know you're a smart guy and i appreciate when you take the time to respond in the way you have today. I would just ask that you not lump me in with things you've heard from others and make that part of your answer.