05-09-2018, 08:13 AM
(05-09-2018, 02:00 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: How many tractors can tow the wagon we had last year to the playoffs (and post elite numbers)?
You've brought up Cousins last season, but he finished 12th in passer rating with 18 turnovers (13 INTs, 13 fumbles - 5 lost). His team also finished 7-9.
Where are all these guys that posted top 5 numbers and led their team to the playoffs when sacked 40+ times, with a bottom 3 run game (yards and YPC)? You've got 50+ years of SB era teams to choose from. Shouldn't be hard to compose a list if it's a common occurrence.
Stafford almost did it last year, but narrowly missed the playoffs an finished 6th in rating. It just doesn't happen often. Even the greats need help (not saying Dalton is a great). Check out Brady's sack totals and run games through the years. Peyton was rarely touched. Ben has taken sacks, but always has a run game. Needing help doesn't = you're getting towed.
You didn't directly answer the question.
Also, was last year Andy's first year playing? Why are you grandstanding on it like there aren't 6 other seasons where he's been basically the same guy.
I'm not as enamoured with the 2015 8 game stretch. He crashed back to reality against the Texans on Thurs Night Football. Dude played lights out for an 8 game stretch 3 years ago. Didn't show that before.... Hasn't shown it since. Lets all remember how he broke his thing: making a tackle after an awful throw for an INT at home against Pittsburgh.
So, I'll ask it again for BFine..... Is Andy a tractor or a wagon?
Hint: He is not the tractor.
- I'll 100% give you this, and I think most would agree.... The tractor on the Bengals is Marvin. The players aren't allowed to be in charge or do their thing or play "their game".
That's my one saving hope for Andy. Is that he breaks out of this Marvin shell and lets loose. I think he would be better off playing fast and free and NOT under Marvin's thumb. But that's on Andy as a leader and as a professional to do that. Until then, he's part of the problem.
