Me Too Champion showed it was him too

[Benton]

(05-11-2018, 12:25 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: We don't use the "no means no" standard anymore. Nothing other than a sober and enthusiastic "yes" is a "yes" when it comes to consent. That is how we treat it, that is the standard we and many universities follow, and one that has been upheld by the courts because as public agencies we must follow due process.

In an academic setting or in regard to teens/kids/young adults, I think that's a plausible standard. As someone with kids, I'm happy that's the standard.

For the other five billion people on the planet, that's probably never going to work. If sobriety and enthusiasm are the benchmarks for consensual sex, I couldn't recall the last time I had consensual sex during the last 14 years of marriage. I'm sure there were times either she or I hadn't had a drink and both were enthusiastic about it.