05-26-2018, 05:35 PM
(05-26-2018, 03:13 AM)CornerBlitz Wrote: I appreciate the thorough response.
1. Let's get a few things straight about AJ Green. He will probably go down as the Bengals best WR in history. I know that some like to hate on a few dropped passes or some other random tidbit but the fact remains that he's been a top 5 WR for the majority of his career. That obviously helps the QB whether it is Dalton or someone else tremendously. I don't think anyone gives him the entire credit for Dalton's success but you cannot deny how greatly it has helped him.
2. I agree that sports shows/experts like the new kid on the block but they also like the old guys if they are good. Do you think the experts aren't in love with the likes of Rodgers, Brady, or Brees because they are old? No, in fact they are recognized even more because they are able to play at an elite level even in the later part of their careers. It is the mediocre guys that the experts tend to forget about.
3. You can continue to give Andy Dalton a free pass on his abysmal playoff games but I don't. Nobody gets a free pass. The team in general has stunk it up. We all know that the two most important factors typically for playoff success is the head coach and the performance of the QB. I know you will forever continue to harp on the 3 games before Dalton and because of it this gives you the go ahead to deflect 100% blame off Dalton. Keep i mind he's in the huddle, he's making the decisions, he's throwing the ball. If he stinks it up I don't give him a free pass. For the record I also didn't give Carson Palmer a free pass when he stunk it up. He also shares the blame.
I just think no matter what Dalton does the fans of his always find an excuse. For playoff losses it is Marvin's fault. For 2017 it is the o line's fault. For 2016 it was the injuries. At a certain point if you are a good QB you have to figure out a way to get it done and so far he hasn't.
1. I never said AJ Green hasn't been an asset. I said it was unfair to completely write off Dalton's success as a byproduct of having Green. To me, that argument went out the window when Green missed around 12 games in 3 years, and Dalton had a winning record and solid performance in those games. Also, as good as Green has been, the other receivers have been questionable at best for the most part, outside of 2013 and 2015.
2. The guys you mention have all won Super Bowls and are viewed as the top 3-4 passers in the game. Someone like Dalton - with the narratives I mentioned - is always going to get placed behind the hot new names.
3. Not about a free pass buddy. It's about taking in the vast array of evidence and coming to a logical conclusion...as far as playoffs go.
With the regular season, I don't think Dalton has required many excuses. His only poor statistical seasons were his rookie year, 2014 and last year. Most considered his rookie season a success, so really it's just 2 years.
2014 (even if you ignore the injuries at receiver) was mostly a good year with some gutsy performances. The 2.0 game tanked his overall numbers, and that's what anti Dalton guys will focus on...but Dalton was more good than bad that year, even with the injuries. Now last year...I don't know how any rational person could call that an "excuse". The line was a disaster. If a good QB is always able to overcome an atrocious line, No team with a good QB would ever spend on linemen. Let that stew and think about it for a minute.
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