Trump, Kim sign "comprehensive" document

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(06-12-2018, 05:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Precisely.  The North Korean state cannot exist unless it keeps an iron grip on its citizenry.  Since the entire point of developing nuclear weapons was to help ensure the state's survival adding human rights abuses to any deal simply makes the likelihood of such a deal being achieved remote.  North Korea cannot exist as is without said human rights abuses.  By tying the two to any potential deal you are essentially asking North Korea to disarm and then destroy itself when the whole goal of arming themselves in the first place was to preserve the state.

Arguing for human rights abuses to be included is altruistic but incredibly naïve and demonstrates a marked lack of understanding of the motivations of North Korea.

And not only all of what you said, but not too long ago there seemed to be a possible path to war with them to get rid of the nukes. Now that path seems to hopefully been reversed in a peaceful manner to achieve that very same objective.

For the human rights, which the NK government is certainly guilty of and have committed crimes that should be punished by an international court, what can really be done short of invasion and occupation for a forced government change? I agree with you, not much can really be done there because of the family's iron grip on that country. Only way that changes is if KimYung wants to make drastic reforms to do so, which could lead to a coup from hardliners. Of course we have no way of knowing if that is even a possibility, but what we do know is there is now a possibility for them to at least denuclearize.