Has democracy ended in the U.S.?

[Dill]

(07-02-2018, 12:11 PM)jj22 Wrote: Difference is you guys rely on Fake News to slam Obama, while Trump provides real news worthy of critique.

So you have those who are outraged over fake news and conspiracy theories concerning Obama and Hillary, while Trump is doing exactly what you guys are outraged over fake news/Conspiracy theories about, and yet you guys are fine with it when it is happening in real life. Go figure.

There is a denial in two aspects here.

The Obama/Hillary conspiracies rely on disregard of the factual record.

Trump defenses do pretty much the same.

In one case, the goal was to use right wing media to create facts. In the other it was to use that media to deny them.

That's why now people can say "Republicans thought the world would end under Obama and now Democrats are doing the same. Both sides do it"

Except it's not the same.  No president has EVER behaved as badly in public as Trump, or know as little about governing, and no group of supporters has ever cared less how he behaves or knows.