Has democracy ended in the U.S.?

[Dill]

(07-02-2018, 09:10 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Yup. In sports terms these people are called homers, or ones that will cheer on their side and blindly defend it.

Leftist: "No walls or fences, open the border, all are welcome!"
Realist: "What utopian world do you think we are a part of?"

Rightist: "Global warming is a conspiracy theory"
Realist: "You do realize 99% of scientists that have published on this disagree with you?"

This is why we need to be careful about claiming "both sides do it."  To make that work you have to construct evidence that fits the theory rather than base the theory on empirical evidence.

Many real leftists might actually be for an open border.  But the vast majority of Democrats are not leftists and don't* want an open border. Don't put Trump's words in liberal centrists' mouths and then represent them as "leftists."

Also, the reference to the scientific consensus on global warming certainly is "leftist," not to mention liberal centrist, and questioned by the right. But you have decided call that reference "realist," rather than point out that in this case, "both sides" don't do it.

*fixed it!