#WalkAway

[Belsnickel]

(07-03-2018, 10:20 PM)hollodero Wrote: The problem being that the parties in power will have a seldom bipartisan agreement that they don't really want this. Is what I'd figure. I can't really see them being in support of a third party emerging.

This s very true. The biggest push will come from states that allow the public to put a referendum on the ballot by petition. That number isn't even a majority of the states, but if the movement begins with that then there is a possibility for it to take off.

(07-03-2018, 10:20 PM)hollodero Wrote: And if people ever would care enough to make this a movement, I don't know. Do they? And what caused the Maine exception in the first place? (Asks the guy who's too lazy to do his own research on that.)

Maine has a terrible governor. Paul LePage is a Republican and he fits right in with the Trump movement of the party. In 2014, the election was one of those where a third party played a big spoiler. LePage won his second term with less than a majority after already proving himself to be terrible and the state polling more Democrat. This movement was a citizen-initiated referendum, like what I referred to above, that the established politicians tried hard to delay but the courts shot them down and the people turned in another petition with enough signatures to override efforts by elected officials to delay the new law.

(07-03-2018, 10:20 PM)hollodero Wrote: Side comment on topic, I just thought it's amazing how conservatives' self-definition often seems to have more to do with liberals than with their own side.
And how in the end it's probably quite similar the other way round. I'm one of these because I sure am not one of those.
You really need more parties. This political landscape is turning into a bipolar disorder.

I completely agree. Right now, we have two political parties that only have the mission of injecting money into races and winning. They have no real ideological stance. They aren't concerned about the good of the country. We need a system like what exists in some European countries where there are more parties, that have actual platforms that give their members direction. I'm not saying the systems in your area are perfect by any means, but they have proven to be effective at many of the things that our two-party system has failed at.