8 homicides in 1 day.

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(09-07-2015, 04:35 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: In comparison, you could look at the city of Milwaukee, who has some of the lightest gun laws in the country. Where you are allowed to carry either open or concealed......where you do not need a permit to purchase, a license to operate, or a registration to own.....where there are no assault weapon or magazine restrictions, and things such as castle doctrine in place. We're talking about a city that ranked 9th in violent crime rate in 2013, then more than doubled the murder rate from last year to this year (YTD), where police chief Edward Flynn has cited the cities' "absurdly weak gun laws" for the rise in homicides.

But light gun laws supposedly stop this violent crime, or so the gun-nut right wing freedom fighters tell us.

OR...we could set bias aside, and look at both of this cities and make the conclusion that neither heavy gun laws nor light gun laws have an effect on how violent segments of the population are going to act. Regardless of your political agenda, gun laws (either way) don't seem to have an effect. It's a cultural problem and a mental health problem, and has little to do with whether citizens can lawfully own and carry guns or whether they cannot.

(09-07-2015, 04:53 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: I'd add education and social / financial mobility to your list. Seems like the cat is already out of the bag at this point. Least we could do is give people a way out of the destitude that constricts their potential and devalues their perception of life as a whole.

Now you two are just trying to look at the causes of the problem and not the superficial topic the politicians want us to focus on. You're not allowed to do that.