08-21-2018, 03:07 PM
(08-21-2018, 02:27 PM)Dill Wrote: If people have done their time, then I am fine with them voting--especially if we are talking about large groups of people, hundreds of thousands in some states. Permanently having no say in politics is a worse outcome than Madoff getting a vote. I am for this, even though it might increase the number of Trump voters out there substantially.
I think that since the mid 1980s, much prison education has been rolled back--the one thing that most worked against recidivism. I am not aware of any "soft" prisons. Tvs and gyms help control inmates. Libraries offer hope and education. There may be people who are beyond help, but I wouldn't assume the majority can't learn to mend their ways in prison, if the have the opportunity and some hope of a real start once they get out of prison. Closing libraries and reducing education discourages any change in behavior.
The big problem is no whether prisoners have tvs or the vote, so much as the legal apparatus which puts so many in prison. Why should a country with a quarter of the population of China have double the number of prisoners as China?
'Cause we don't kill all ours.
Incidentally, there is only one state with rehabilitation in the title of their correctional system. Any guesses?
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