So... who wrote the NYT op-ed?

[hollodero]

(09-11-2018, 01:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So Fredlike. I am disappointed tat Hollo entertained it.

It helped make my own former point overly clear, I added minus the exaggeration. In the bigger picture, I do agree with you and you know that. The things thrown around at you and some others are not constructive and also to me, those interruptions get annoying at times. Maybe I should mention that still more often, but then again, maybe some things can be ignored further along. It's not like things change any way.

I  found it a funny satirical hyperbole of my stance still. Under that aspect, I considered it as helpful in a way. And whether I entertain it or not plays no role anyway. Interjections like those show as much disrespect for me as they do for you. I'm just the Roman adapting to Rome here.

(09-11-2018, 01:48 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No, I do not believe Obama; nor any POTUS in our recent history, to be as overtly uncivil as Trump. He is very polished and politically correct. Unfortunately many place delivery over content. They both want to push their agendas.

Both things play its part, being civil is still important. Also, I choose Obama over Trump content-wise as well, not regarding any agenda or policies. This is a matter of the demise of the presidency and the dangers coming with it. When it comes to honoring the office, I choose Obama over Trump any day, in any aspect really.
As to pushing agendas, I still believe Obama's actions are not agenda-driven, but worry-driven. Why wouldn't you?