Jesus Wept

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(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Not clear what your point is anymore.

That's not my fault. Stick to the things I say and don't make shit up and you won't have this problem.

My point is that I don't think that all the evangelical leaders that went to the even in the OP are hypocrites.

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I was trying to have a discussion about the hypocrite evangelicals that Trump invited to the White House.  Seems pretty clear to me they are a huge crowd of hypocrites because they all claim to support Trump based on moral grounds (or at least every single one mentioned in any story anywhere about them) while Trumps morals are extremely low.

I understand that. But you CLAIMED they were all hypocrites, not that you thought they were all hypocrites. Heck, even I could believe most of them are, but all of them?

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You seem to disagree with me, but I am not sure why.

It's pretty easy to anyone who read whats written and not the shit they make up in their head. I don't believe ALL of them are hypocrites because I know from personal experience that sometimes people attend an event for a variety of reasons other than full 100% support of the host.

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Do you have any evidence that there was single person at that function that did not support Trump based on moral grounds. 

Again, it's not my imperative. I'm not the one making a claim. YOU did. It was incumbent upon you to provide evidence. You did not other than your opinion.

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You seem to be hung up on my inability to list each and every person and their own personal beliefs.  I will admit that I can't do that. 

I know you can't. You made a claim that you couldn't possibly know for a fact. I'm just surprised it took this long to get you to admit it.

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But I have posted tons of info to back up my position that they are all hypocrites 

You've posted nothing but opinion (aside from establishing the fact that this event took place and evangelical leaders were invited - two facts which were not in dispute). And you once told me something about opinions and their value in the midst of a debate. I forget your exact wording, but I'm sure you remember what I'm talking about.

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Do you have any evidence to suggest that anyone there did not support Trump based on moral grounds?  If so I'd like to see it. 

Do you have any evidence to suggest that everyone there did support Trump based on moral grounds? If so, I've been ASKING to see it for some time now.

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I have posted tons of info on the people who were there and what they said.  If you want to discuss any of those facts that would be great.  

Facts? As I just said, the only facts you've posted were that an event was hosted by Trump and evangelical leaders were there. The rest is just opinion and supposition.  The rest has been your opinion that you've repeatedly tried to pass off as fact. I've repeatedly ask for proof and you've repeatedly failed to provide any.

(09-07-2018, 07:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I have posted tons of stories about these hypocrites.

And a grand total of zero of them have proven they are hypocrites, let alone that ALL of them are.