09-17-2018, 12:15 PM
Dill (in ironic mode): (LOL liberal "hypocrites" are silent about Obama's "lies" while they are all over Trump for siding with Putin over the CIA and denying 3,000 people died in PR.)
Vlad: Right... "Bush lied, people died", "Trump's a liar."..but that scumbag between them that you adored so much was infallible.
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The decent family man who served between Bush and Trump did not lie us into an unnecessary war and preside over a recession, and he had no trouble denouncing racists and international adversaries. Noting that he was much more civil in discourse knowledgeable about governing is neither a claim nor an implication that he was "infallible." To raise that issue is simply a red herring.
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Dill: For them Trump "hate" is still the real driver of the current political chaos.
VLAD: Yes it is, what else can it be? You are being very disingenuous when you put hate in quotation marks as if it were not true.
Hate was there before Trump signed a bill, hate was there before he took the oath of office.
The moment he won the election, it began, a concerted effort to delegitimize his presidency because he had the audacity to win.
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Just a suggestion--Trump "hate" COULD have been there "before he took the oath of office" because he was the primary driver of racist birtherism, knew nothing about government, had already used race and religion to generate fear and drive wedges between Americans, and had a built a reputation for misogyny confirmed by his public comments and tweets.
So with all these good reasons to oppose Trump, you imagine it was simply "audacity" that upset people. "Hate" is simply a vacuous term that helps you and your president avoid accountability by representing valid opposition to odious and incompetent performance as incidental to that performance.
So you are comfortable with a p grabber who makes fun of disabled people without apology, who can imagine "good" white nationalists and Nazis, and refuses to lead his own security establishment in defense of Russian cyber attacks. Because it upsets liberals?
Vlad: Right... "Bush lied, people died", "Trump's a liar."..but that scumbag between them that you adored so much was infallible.
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The decent family man who served between Bush and Trump did not lie us into an unnecessary war and preside over a recession, and he had no trouble denouncing racists and international adversaries. Noting that he was much more civil in discourse knowledgeable about governing is neither a claim nor an implication that he was "infallible." To raise that issue is simply a red herring.
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Dill: For them Trump "hate" is still the real driver of the current political chaos.
VLAD: Yes it is, what else can it be? You are being very disingenuous when you put hate in quotation marks as if it were not true.
Hate was there before Trump signed a bill, hate was there before he took the oath of office.
The moment he won the election, it began, a concerted effort to delegitimize his presidency because he had the audacity to win.
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Just a suggestion--Trump "hate" COULD have been there "before he took the oath of office" because he was the primary driver of racist birtherism, knew nothing about government, had already used race and religion to generate fear and drive wedges between Americans, and had a built a reputation for misogyny confirmed by his public comments and tweets.
So with all these good reasons to oppose Trump, you imagine it was simply "audacity" that upset people. "Hate" is simply a vacuous term that helps you and your president avoid accountability by representing valid opposition to odious and incompetent performance as incidental to that performance.
So you are comfortable with a p grabber who makes fun of disabled people without apology, who can imagine "good" white nationalists and Nazis, and refuses to lead his own security establishment in defense of Russian cyber attacks. Because it upsets liberals?
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