Good guy with a gun...

[GMDino]

(11-13-2018, 11:59 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I haven't put forth any speculation about what happened, I've asked questions and pointed out the extremely limited information we have available.]

(11-13-2018, 12:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: It's also why the narrative of a "good guy with a gun" is so wrong.  The police do not know who the bad guy is when they get there.  Why they chose to shoot this guy is unknown right now...but it just goes to show how more guns didn't save this guy who did everything right.

Although I'm pretty sure it will be that he didn't follow the officers commands quickly enough or something.

(11-13-2018, 11:40 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: If you're off duty or plain clothes the first thing you do when uniformed officers arrive on scene is place your gun on the ground (in a safe place) and step away from it.  Then place your hands up with badge in hand.  

I have several questions about the incident in OP.  Was the guard in uniform?  Why was the guard pointing a gun at a subdued suspect he had physical control over?  Did the guard respond to police commands when they arrived on scene?  

How are people drawing definitive conclusions from the limited amount of evidence we have on hand? 

We said the same thing. I started with "pretty sure" (not definitive) and ended with "or something" (not definitive). You asked if the same thing I said could have happened. Just because you framed it was a question and I framed as a possibility doesn't make any difference.

(11-13-2018, 11:59 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Except the why can be rather important in either bolstering your argument or making it an irrelevancy.

I suppose if he did something "wrong" to get himself shot it will come out. But he still did what we want a good guy to do and got shot by the police. Somehow that doesn't jive with the narrative the NRA wants out there. Have they spoken out in his defense yet?