Black Sunday

[Dill]

(11-26-2018, 09:45 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: So you think Trump is going to go after the Legal Immigrants and push them out as well?
Isn't that what Hitler did, pushed out all Jews legal or not? Even pushed them right into their graves.
Let me know when that happens and I'll switch sides gladly, til then stop spouting idiotic comparisons to compare someone to an event that is never going to happen, it's rather embarrassing and highly offensive for those that did live thru it.

You are speaking for those who did "live thru it"?  
https://www.newsweek.com/im-holocaust-survivor-trumps-america-feels-germany-nazis-took-over-876965

What Hitler did was rouse people up against liberals and others who did not "belong" in the new Reich, comparing them to animals and vermin. And Hitler was not just after Jews. The Nazi party platform demanded expulsion of post-1914 emigres and a shutdown of all new immigration, securing borders to prevent "others" from breaking in--like all countries do, they would say.   

And while we are on the subject of comparisons, historians and political scientists see a professional responsibility in comparing Hitler's rise to power in Nazi Germany to the rise of other autocratic regimes--especially where a rollback of democracy is involved. No professional doing that assumes such comparison implies a time table to the holocaust for any country so compared. All recognize a regime could fall far short of the Holocaust/WWII and still be pretty bad. And few see a problem with taking notes and applying them to the current U.S.

Most would agree that the critical period for salvaging disintegrating democracies is BEFORE a potential dictator takes over, when he has begun denigrating the free press, the courts and other institutions whose integrity is necessary for Democracy, appealing to identity grievances while defining and targeting parasitical "outsiders."  And most would agree that the U.S. is currently experiencing some warning signs commonly seen on the road to despotism. To say that is not to predict another Holocaust or claim Trump=Hitler, but to acknowledge that the failure of ordinary people to stand up to illiberal politics can lead to very bad, if as yet indeterminable, results. I've seen nothing in Trump's behavior to suggest he could actually lead the U.S. into a dictatorship, which would require focus and work ethic. But he can certainly generate divisions and gin up international conflicts which could make democracy unworkable in the U.S., leaving others to sort out the mess for years to come.

By the time "it" happens, whatever bad thing may follow from the current embrace of illiberal politics, it may be too late to stop it. That is why people need to switch sides BEFORE it happens.