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Whitworth-Bengals lowballed
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(12-04-2018, 04:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Except it is unlikely they offered $12m.

The Franchise Tag that year for OL was just a little over $14m.

What we already "knew" was that Hobson loves to spin things with lies, and the Bengals are cheap. Also that there's a segment of the Bengals fandom that will readily believe anything they read from Hobson for God-knows-what reason.

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That said, Andrew Whitworth actually got $12.5m in the first year, including a $5m signing bonus which means he got that upfront.

Then he had another $2.5m guaranteed.

So even if the Rams cut him after 1 year, he would have walked away with $15m.

So lets pretend the Bengals DID offer him 1yr/$12m. That's not the same as a guarantee of 1yr/$15m, with $5m of that coming the second you sign on the dotted line. Was ANY of the Bengals offer guaranteed? Potential money isn't the same as real guaranteed money.

In comparison, Burfict got a $3.3m signing bonus from the Bengals on a $32.5m deal. There is a huge difference on getting $5m today or getting $5m over the span of 12-14 months in terms of how much money you can then make by investing that money.

The Bengals are cheap.

Hard to say.  The initial offer wasn't $12 mil, but sources said they would have been willing to go to $12 mil, but not for multiple years.  It's kind of irrelevant, because the only way the Bengals could have paid him more guaranteed money on a 1 year deal than he got from the Rams is paying him more than the FT that year, which wasn't happening.

We don't know how much guaranteed money the Bengals put on the table.  He got $2 mil at signing when he signed his previous 1 year extension.  Payment schedule is important, but you also have to consider that he's paying to move his family cross country into a city with an insanely high cost of living.

At the end of the day, the Bengals should have just used the FT on him if they weren't willing to commit to a multi-year deal, so in that way, they were cheap.  However, they would still be looking to replace him this upcoming year.  The biggest issue isn't that Whit left.  It's that the guys they drafted to replace him were busts and they were slow to recognize it.
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Whitworth-Bengals lowballed - pally - 12-04-2018, 12:04 PM
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RE: Whitworth-Bengals lowballed - jj22 - 12-05-2018, 11:25 AM
RE: Whitworth-Bengals lowballed - pally - 12-04-2018, 01:26 PM
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RE: Whitworth-Bengals lowballed - 3wt - 12-04-2018, 08:06 PM
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RE: Whitworth-Bengals lowballed - Sled21 - 12-05-2018, 09:09 AM
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RE: Whitworth-Bengals lowballed - Sled21 - 12-05-2018, 09:51 AM
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RE: Whitworth-Bengals lowballed - Sled21 - 12-05-2018, 02:05 PM
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