12-11-2018, 09:23 PM
(12-11-2018, 08:17 PM)Dill Wrote: LOL the personal attack is your "common theme."
If you consider pointing out facts as a personal attack then, I guess? Another common tactic of you three btw, claim everything is a "personal attack". I wish you realized how laughably transparent this is.
Quote:So "personal accountability" and self-education regarding political issues are your standards today, for this thread.
You appear to be implying I have stated otherwise in previous threads. If so I would be interested in you pointing a few of them out.
Quote: Your "abdication" charge is not clearly connected to my comments about voters changing their minds. Perhaps you would argue that sticking to a vote after one has changed one's mind demonstrates personal accountability?
You claimed people were "bullshited". I pointed out that one cannot be bullshited is one chooses to educate oneself. This would appear to be the definition of personal accountability.
Quote:The U.S. is full of people who march in ideological lockstep while insisting their views are "individual" and their own. When asked to explain or defend those views, they can't do much more than reassert them or shout "it's obvious."
Oh to be sure. Sometimes the person making such statements is just as guilty as those they accuse. I doubt you'll appreciate the double edged nature of this observation.
Quote:Individuality appears, among other things, in how well people think through their positions and answer for them, as opposed to just throwing up ad hoc and frequently conflicting assertions, and then simply "standing by" them when questioned. (I bet Dino agrees . . . lockstep!)
To be sure, very few can reach your exalted level of intellectual purity. I suppose obfuscating behind intellectual Gordian knots could constitute "thinking through positions" if you try really hard. BTW, you seem to be aiming to get yet another thread locked with your tired diatribes against me.
Quote:Agreement is only meaningful if it comes from people with dissimilar positions?
Oh, not at all. It is usually more meaningful when such a situation occurs, but it by no means is exclusionary in that regard.
Quote: If Lucy were here backing the views of the EU you express in post # 10, as he likely would, would that render his agreement with you on the referendum issue "virtually meaningless"?
Seeing as how Lucie and I had very little in common on almost every issue I fail to see your point. BTW, this is yet another example of the snide tactic you three engage in that you've "never seen". That you think no one notices this doesn't speak well for you. Please, return to the subject at hand instead of trying to get another thread locked.
