Brexit Bungle

[Dill]

(12-12-2018, 10:32 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I read the whole thing, but I only pasted this for brevity. I don't disagree with most of what you say here. However, I disagree that the circumstances warrant another referendum vote in the case of the Brexit question itself. They voted to leave, and they elected a Parliament to handle the negotiations after that occurred.

That's not an unreasonable position.  And you Brexit Tories are right to be concerned about the losers of a vote "undoing" results to get what they want.  If the party in control of Parliament works to sabotage the vote by framing the exit for delay or maximum damage, then I agree with you all that that is indeed anti-democratic, wrong, etc.  Previous disinformation, Russian interference, the projected £500+ drop in median household income etc., don't justify a minority taking it upon themselves to right things outside the electoral process

But if I again may risk speaking for the Whigs, the question for them is whether a re-vote would be reasonable or not at this point, two years later, as the required adjustments to Brexit, the losses especially, become clearer.  Speaking for myself, I see my assent to a re-vote as separate from other actions the might be simultaneously going on to stall or sabotage Brexit. I would not agree that a re-vote is right simply because the Conservatives are deliberately stalling implementation. A re-vote resulting from that, I agree, would not be just or legitimate. It has to be product of new debates and evidence that a clear majority no longer supports Brexit.