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Immigrants as scapegoats
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(01-03-2019, 03:03 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: You don't think they do? If Repubilicans tried to change something that helps people in poverty, the Democrats will say it's a bad thing and slander it to death. Same if positions are reversed. Neither wants the other doing good things to their voting base.

We are not leaders anymore in much of anything, education, health etc.

The politicians have the ability to make changes to the US and raise the standards here and in turn we can lead by example so other countries will strive to match us.

Face the facts, we can't control other nations. We have tried and tried and it backfires more often than not because WE HALF-ASS IT, we simply do not follow thru because we had no plan to begin with and politicians always change their minds every voting cycle.  
So we need to find a way thru trade etc to boost the economies of people that are making progress with their own nations human rights and those that continue to violate them, well blacklist them.

??? Not sure what you mean by "control".  The US, before Trump, had more diplomatic power than any country in the world.  Obama managed to get China, russia, and Iran to sign a nuclear deal along with Germany, France and Great Britain. No other country could engineer a deal like that, precisely because of how the US has behaved since WWII, building and upholding alliances. When the US throws its economic weight against Russia, it brings along the 17 trillion dollar EU economy.  That is only possible because something--a great deal--hasn't "backfired." Shouldn't we be facing those "facts"?

The major US foreign policy failures result from bad judgment, like the Iraq invasion or the Vietnam war--from politicians ignoring foreign policy experts and diplomacy.  Of course people who don't believe in nation building "have no plan"--with disastrous results. 

The US was "finding a way through trade to boost the economies of people that are making progress" etc. until Trump's America first project.

This brings me back to my primary question--What is your view of universal human rights? Should they be displaced by something like National rights?  Wh
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Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 12-26-2018, 08:51 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 12-26-2018, 09:02 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 12-26-2018, 09:09 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 12-27-2018, 03:02 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 12-29-2018, 06:24 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-02-2019, 04:25 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-02-2019, 05:23 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-02-2019, 07:50 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 10:58 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 12:08 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 12:22 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 12:49 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 03:12 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 05:39 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 05:44 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 05:50 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 06:12 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 06:20 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 05:54 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 06:20 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 06:41 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 07:00 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 08:24 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 09:01 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Beaker - 01-03-2019, 08:49 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Beaker - 01-03-2019, 09:06 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 09:19 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Beaker - 01-03-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Beaker - 01-04-2019, 02:47 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 06:28 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-03-2019, 12:44 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 01:07 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-03-2019, 01:44 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 12:07 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 12-29-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Benton - 01-02-2019, 02:39 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 12-29-2018, 06:32 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-02-2019, 07:58 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-03-2019, 12:36 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 01:03 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-03-2019, 01:42 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 03:16 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 03:22 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-03-2019, 11:59 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-08-2019, 06:11 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - michaelsean - 01-03-2019, 10:21 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 10:27 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-03-2019, 03:59 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 05:09 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 06:16 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 09:35 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-04-2019, 12:26 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-04-2019, 12:16 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-09-2019, 07:27 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-09-2019, 07:32 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-11-2019, 06:38 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 05:41 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - fredtoast - 01-03-2019, 05:50 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-03-2019, 04:42 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-03-2019, 08:15 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 08:22 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 09:05 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-03-2019, 09:11 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 09:17 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-03-2019, 09:20 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-03-2019, 09:33 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - bfine32 - 01-03-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-03-2019, 09:45 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-04-2019, 10:11 AM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Beaker - 01-04-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-04-2019, 12:26 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-04-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-09-2019, 06:30 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-10-2019, 12:52 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-10-2019, 03:51 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-11-2019, 06:53 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-12-2019, 05:30 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Belsnickel - 01-12-2019, 06:01 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-12-2019, 06:18 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-17-2019, 04:40 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - Dill - 01-17-2019, 04:43 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-17-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-18-2019, 12:43 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - BmorePat87 - 01-18-2019, 01:38 PM
RE: Immigrants as scapegoats - GMDino - 01-18-2019, 01:46 PM

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