03-14-2019, 11:59 AM
(03-14-2019, 11:48 AM)GMDino Wrote: Sure you could. You could also assign those reprehensible actions to any other group they belong too: Men, women, americans, rich people, people with brown hair. that just a few of the people involved in this were celebrities and that you assigned your happiness to those few getting caught says more about what you "mean".
I suppose you and Fred are having the same difficulty realizing I'm discussing a micro subset of humanity, easily distinguishable from others by choice, not by genetic trait.
Quote:So much for you saying "I can admit when I'm wrong".
I'd have to be wrong first.
Quote:And in the case of Manafort he had a lifetime of "gaming the system" plus he behavior within this trial (according to the judge in this trial) that resulted in his sentencing. Versus the other judge who seemed to think Manafort got caught once doing one thing in an "otherwise blameless life".
Was he charged with a "lifetime of gaming the system"?
Quote:Don'tcha just hate "activist" judges?
You often get confused when talking to someone you perceive to be the opposition as you frequently ascribe positions to them that they have not taken. I have, on numerous occasions, pointed out that judicial discretion is important but that it will, on occasion lead to a sentence you perceive as unjust. Mandatory minimums have the exact same effect in a different way. Given the choice I'll err on the side of judicial discretion for the same reason I'd want a bench trial if I was charged with a crime I did not commit.
Quote:No, the purpose was to compare rich celebrities that get away with lesser sentences than other people...DJT being a good example that everyone knows about.
Outstanding, given that wasn't at all what I was talking about I suppose my follow up question would be why you felt the need to make the point in response to me?
Quote:Weird that I wasn't "defending" them as much as saying that it happens that rich people get away with more. But I guess you didn't have anything else to argue with me about?
I'm not arguing with you about anything, I made a point and you started in with me. Was my first post in this thread a response to you? No. I made a point about the general amorality of the Hollywood elite and you felt the need to charge in with a reply about Trump banging a porn star. You frequently bemoan the tenor of the conversation around here and I've pointed this out before; you're just as much an offender in this regard as anyone. Given that this conversation has completely gone off topic I will now cease engaging in it. If you feel the need to get in that last word, please feel free to do so.
