The Mueller Report thread

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(04-05-2019, 10:45 AM)jj22 Wrote: If it was a witch hunt/hoax, there'd be no Grand jury! There'd be no "investigations still in progress".

That's the big point in all this.

They are lying. You are criticizing me when you should be criticizing the people pushing this "full exoneration" Muelller report found it was a hoax/witch hunt etc lie we've been hearing about the last two weeks and people was gloating about earlier in this thread.

We both agree there is a grand jury, there is an on going investigation etc. We agree on everything except I'm calling out Trump, Barr, and his supporters on their lie and you are scrutinizing me for calling them out on it.

A Grand Jury, or an ongoing investigation (anything that is classified and needs redacted) would not be an issue if it was deemed by Mueller a witch hunt/Hoax etc. like Trump and his supporters are claiming.

JJ, I don't think Mike was criticizing you. He was making some procedural points about your argument.

Mike reminds us that grand jury interrogations may have two by products which cannot go public--1) clandestine sources and methods, which our intel services want to remain secret, and 2) personal information about people who are not "targets" of the investigation, and so have a right to privacy.

Like you, I think Trump and supporters tried to spin "no collusion" into complete exoneration of everything, including instruction. And like you, I don't buy that. But I want a PROPERLY redacted version to become public.  I don't want Barr or whomever to use 1) and 2) as an excuse to cut information culpatory for Trump. That is why Congress, at least the intel committee, needs to see an unredacted version to reassure us that has not occurred.  The public cannot/should not see a completely unredacted version of the report, though.

Mike knows full well what Trump and his supporters are claiming. He also knows all that noise has no legal consequence so he won't get worked up about it. The case is not closed, story still unfolding, etc. so he's waiting to see how it plays out.