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AOC's Racist Speech
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(04-11-2019, 11:35 AM)jj22 Wrote: And the media. Where is the wall to wall coverage of Trump and his family's personal email and cell phone usage for example? 

And you forgot Kav who got nominated and confirmed.  Just from recent examples.

Society does hold Dems to higher standards unfortunately. That's why they demand Clinton to testify under oath, demand the full release of the Starr report, demand he be impeached, demand Obama show his birth certificate and get all of the above. They won't put that kind of pressure on Trump to even show his taxes. Let a Dem not show their taxes and they'd be out of the running so fast, we'd forget they ran. When it comes to Dems, Americans just don't play.

Well, I think that adds further definition to what I said. You're using the term "they" and "we" when referring to voters, but there are essentially two distinct voter bases in this country.

Society doesn't hold Dems to higher standards. Dem voters hold Dem politicians to higher (or different) standards.

"They" demand Clinton to testify under oath is a different group. That's the Republican voters. Dem voters weren't demanding Clinton to testify under oath or demanding Obama's birth certificate.

And "they" did put pressure on Trump to even show his taxes. But "they" here is the Dem voters. The Republican voters did not because it wasn't important to them. And, given the choice between appealing to Dem voters and appealing to Republican voters (who either didn't care about his taxes, or value his other stances far more to let it sway their opinions), the choice for Trump was obvious. Why appease people who won't vote for you?

The reason a Dem would be out if they refused to reveal their taxes is because Dems value perceived integrity whereas Republicans see everything like that as a "hit job" or "coup" attempt. And, hell, I am not even sure Dems would care if Bernie didn't release his taxes. They'd still vote for him over Trump!

I think Dems do this a lot. Where they try to appease the people who have no intention of ever voting for them in the first place. Why the hell did Elizabeth Warren take that ancestry test? The people who will vote for her didn't care AT ALL. The people who would never ever vote for her were the ones who demanded to know her lineage. 


Republican politicians know what they're doing. They ignore every request made by Dems that they're legally allowed to, because they know that appeasing or responding to those demands earns them 0 new votes.

If Dems could just learn that lesson, I think they'd get a lot further in politics.





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AOC's Racist Speech - BFritz21 - 04-11-2019, 09:11 AM
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