The big problem is not Trump. It is "Trumpism"

[Dill]

(05-06-2019, 12:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Show me where I've defended Trump in this thread.

Not just Trump, but Trump voters as well. Posts #13, #37, and #55 stand out in this regard.

Central to your defense are two claims:

1. of moral/ethical equivalence between Hillary and Trump, and

2. the incredible claim that those who voted for the repeatedly bankrupted Birther-in-chief were "no worse" in their judgment than those who voted for the Secretary of State who got China and India committed to the Copenhagen Accord--a claim you made even before we were separating ethics from competence.

If your claim now is that you are just attacking Hillary, not defending Trump, that also rests upon more equivocation.  It's not like YOU just started this thread to bash Hillary and then SOMEONE ELSE introduced the topic of Trump. No, this thread is about TRUMPISM, and your Hillary claims are introduced to water down and neutralize the assessment of Trump and Trumpism.

THAT's how an attack on Hillary becomes a defense of Trump.

In repeating Fox talking points about Hillary, you dismiss the kind of analytical framework which would compare apples with apples using accurate information.

Thus, family to family, the P-GrabbingTrump, who cheated on three wives and paid off a pornstar with his personal "fixer" and arranged to kill other negative stories, has no less integrity than Hillary, who is "reported" to have called a woman who slept with his husband a "bimbo" (meaning she is careful NOT to make public statements about such matters). And decided to stay with Bill.

Works out the same way if the terms of comparison are financial history or "lies," and gets worse when we get to competence, comparing them on statecraft and debate performance.

To repeat, again, to defend Trump, you must lower standards of evidence, deflect, equivocate and dismiss logical/analytical comparison. You must breakdown all the means and tools for helping voters decide who is likely to make a competent president--and who is not. Pretend it all really comes down to a hunch.