The Abortion Question

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(09-28-2015, 11:30 PM)Blutarsky Wrote: Correct me if I haven't been following correctly.

You're referring to "other's bodies" as the fetus correct?  Then what about the old  "a woman has a right to do what she wants with her own body" rhetoric, as if the fetus was not another human but rather some sort of parasite?

Do you then agree with this meme?

"Fruit of other's bodies" being anything produced using someone's body, so someone suggesting they had a right to your body or the results of your labor. Clearly the meme is nonsensical as the fetus, prior to fetal viability, is completely dependent on the woman's body to survive and does not have any rights. It's a fetus. Regardless of the last part about it not having rights, it's your choice whether or not you host something in your body. Hence why it's an issue of the woman's body. 

Even you have to see the silliness in suggesting that the woman's body isn't a part of the equation.

(09-28-2015, 11:03 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Never advocated denying rights to anyone, not sure where you get that.

As to the rest: pretty sure you're ignoring the I am the reason you are totally dependent aspect.  I totally agree you have no right to my stuff if I am not the cause for you needing it. Nothing really socialist about it. 

I will keep in mind your view on necessary dependency. 

At least go back to the embryo has no rights stance. 

You've argued against gay marriage in the past and have cited your religion. That aside, philosophically, the cause of dependency is irrelevant. If I am responsible for you losing your job, I am not obligated to help you survive. You can perceive the existence of a duty, but it does not exist in nature. Should someone? Sure, I honestly do not like the idea of an abortion... but I understand the issue with arguing that someone no longer owns their body because a mass of cells that doesn't possess any rights has a claim to it..