Do you believe; and why?

[Matt_Crimson]

(05-15-2019, 08:48 AM)michaelsean Wrote: This is where I separate from religion which is mostly what's being argued here.  How could God not get what He desires?

Your question is "How can God not get what he desires"?

I believe it's because it's his will. He desires for us to be with him, which is part of the reason he created us. Not getting that desire only happens because he wills it so, not because of something acting independently of him causing a loss of him obtaining what he desires.