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Question For Pro-Choice People
(05-17-2019, 01:22 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Because there is no damaged individual before the end of the second trimester, but there is afterwards.

Think of it this way.  Say you are making pottery.  You have a source of free clay, but you have to pay to have it baked in a kiln.  It does not matter how much you screw up your clay before you pay to bake it.  You can even throw it away if you mess up, but once you pay to have it baked you are responsible for the flaws.  

Since it is not even pottery before it is baked it does not matter what happens before it is baked, but if you screw up and bake it then you are responsible for screwed up pottery.

It is a very simple concept, and everyone seems to get it but you.  I hope this example helps.






**Predicts Brad will still miss the point and instead make some stupid comment about how fetus are different from pottery**

I think the big point of contention between pro-choice people and pro-birth people is determining at what point the "baking" occurs.

Pro-choice people will usually say the end of the 2nd trimester (there may be extreme pro choicers who will say "at birth" but I am not so sure about that).
Pro-birth people will almost certainly say either at implantation or at 6 weeks, when the heart beat can be detected.





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