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Question For Pro-Choice People
(06-11-2019, 04:01 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I get folks try to bring it up to support their stance; as you just did. I can freely say as a Christian: Abortion takes the life of an innocent child. I assume you're somehow trying to twist "born into sin" unless there's another biblical passage to use to support your stance.

There are both the secular and biblical definitions of innocent. The child is free from blame aka: Innocent

In all honesty, my position is based entirely on the legal aspects of the situation. The unborn are not persons, they hold no legal rights. They lack a birth certificate, a SSN, or any other sort of identification that our society uses to prove the legal presence of an individual. No presence, no rights. Therefore, the right to liberty of the expecting mother is not infringing on the rights of another individual if she chooses to have an abortion.

I use the religious conversation simply to push back on the idea of its use to justify infringing on the rights of women. I could provide scripture quotes backing up the idea that life begins at breath, meaning not until a child is out of the womb. Hermetical argumentation that there is an "approved" method of abortion in the OT. Also that causing a woman to miscarry is treated as a property crime, while injuring the woman herself is treated as a crime against a person. All of this is biblical evidence that life begins at birth and not in the womb.

But none of that really matters to me. The legal argument is what it is.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

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