Question For Pro-Choice People

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(06-11-2019, 04:12 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: In all honesty, my position is based entirely on the legal aspects of the situation. The unborn are not persons, they hold no legal rights. They lack a birth certificate, a SSN, or any other sort of identification that our society uses to prove the legal presence of an individual. No presence, no rights. Therefore, the right to liberty of the expecting mother is not infringing on the rights of another individual if she chooses to have an abortion.

I use the religious conversation simply to push back on the idea of its use to justify infringing on the rights of women. I could provide scripture quotes backing up the idea that life begins at breath, meaning not until a child is out of the womb. Hermetical argumentation that there is an "approved" method of abortion in the OT. Also that causing a woman to miscarry is treated as a property crime, while injuring the woman herself is treated as a crime against a person. All of this is biblical evidence that life begins at birth and not in the womb.

But none of that really matters to me. The legal argument is what it is.

Sure, and I base my argument on the secular as well to include those of both parents. But just the woman has the Right to abort her offspring for simple inconvenience doesn't mean it has to sit well with me; especially if a co-parent is willing and able to provide the child with a future.

Folks will use religion to support their stance for instance in this of one of the numerous I was told by a Pro-Choicer that I simply believe life begins at conception because I'm religious. That may lead me to believe that is why abortion is a sin, but religion has 0 to do with my view of the fact when human life begins.  We can make attempt to make it as gray as we want, but by its very name; Conception is when a child is conceived "to cause to begin". 

Will your opinion change if the law does?