Question For Pro-Choice People

[Belsnickel]

(06-11-2019, 05:00 PM)Benton Wrote:

Pop culture references are usually lost on me.

(06-11-2019, 05:26 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Sure, and I base my argument on the secular as well to include those of both parents. But just the woman has the Right to abort her offspring for simple inconvenience doesn't mean it has to sit well with me; especially if a co-parent is willing and able to provide the child with a future.

Folks will use religion to support their stance for instance in this of one of the numerous I was told by a Pro-Choicer that I simply believe life begins at conception because I'm religious. That may lead me to believe that is why abortion is a sin, but religion has 0 to do with my view of the fact when human life begins.  We can make attempt to make it as gray as we want, but by its very name; Conception is when a child is conceived "to cause to begin". 

But until personhood it is not an individual. I hate when people throw around "cluster of cells," but in truth that is what it is. That is what everything organic (minus single-celled organisms) is and all cells are life. Society then defines what things are based on certain traits. The unborn go through multiple stages defined by society (and by science) until birth, at which point they become an individual and our legal system recognizes them as a person. But the cells involved were living long before, long before conception, even. The gametes that joined together to begin the evolution to the blastocyst stage were live cells before fertilization, a process that was discovered 400 years after the word conception was first used in the manner you are using it. So for me, the term "conception" and its meaning means very little to the argument when looked at through the lenses of science or law.

(06-11-2019, 05:26 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Will your opinion change if the law does?

On the right to abortion? Likely not. If the unborn were determined to have innate rights as an individual then there would still be a conflict between the rights of the unborn and the rights of the woman carrying it. This is not something that should be handled by the government, especially not in a broad piece of legislation that would be unlikely to take into account all potential scenarios.