War with Iran?

[Dill]

(06-18-2019, 11:04 AM)bfine32 Wrote: We made a concerted commitment to be ingrained in the Community by establishing Military bases and deploying a permanent substantial force instead of dabbling. Like I've constantly said: If it does happen I've hope we learn from previous mistakes and successes. But from the tone of this thread the Iranian Army is the only one capable of evolving.

Bottom line when we fought Iraq they had the 4th largest Army in the world and every Keyboard General stated how the vaulted Republican Guard would be a real challenge; they were not.

Wait--you're saying there was no  post-war insurgency in Germany because we "ingrained in the community" and deployed a substantial force? It's as if culture and politics were invisible to you.

Iraq certainly did not have the 4th BEST army in the world either of the times the US fought it, deployed on a flat desertscape with no air cover. Jeezus.  This is like comparing economies solely on the basis of GDP. 

I don't remember "keyboard generals" worrying about the Republican Guard. I was not part of any online forums in 1991. I do remember Bush touting how US Patriot batteries were protecting Israel. Even primitive scuds are hard to neutralize; how will the US do against thousands of state of the art SAMS and anti-ship missiles?


In any case, it is baffling that you speak so much of national militaries "evolving" while imagining a toe-to-toe slug out in which Iran has "no chance" against our big Army and Navy. Once Teheran falls there will be no reason to fight--like the fall of Berlin?

Iran is NOT an existential threat to the US. They know very well all they have to do is stalemate the US and drain lives. I remember when the US committed a Marine Division to Vietnam, and how our bombers would pulverize them. We had evolved far past the French. I still occasionally meet people who affirm "we never lost a battle."  So Iraq was deja vu in 2003. Another cake walk. Two weeks and the weak army with no missiles or effective air defense was beaten.  Three years later, no one cared that our military was so much better than theirs. The problem was the US had just fought an unnecessary war and people were still dying.  Bolton tried, in 2006, to drum up support for a war against Iran next, but neither the public or Congress were interested.

Bolton still wants that war. But I am pretty sure the Joint chiefs and their staff are not thinking "Hey, the Iranians are no tougher than Iraq's Army."

They do "evolve," and that is why they would not agree with your assessment.