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(07-16-2019, 08:37 PM)Dill Wrote: If you are referring to post #2, the class theme will get you farther than reverse racism, in my view.

Yeah, no such thing as reverse racism.  Only a racist would think there is.

Quote:The point about the fried chicken in the second painting is neither that it's fried nor that it's chicken, but rather that this cheaply acquired fast food replaces the traditional large Thanksgiving dinner lovingly created by someone's mother or grandmother, usually over a course of days, often with help from aunts and sisters and daughters to whom the tradition was passed down. Beer cans replace water glasses, trash the side dishes. People wear hats at the table and grandma has a butt in her mouth. etc.

When juxtaposed to Rockwell's famous rendition of this American family tradition, the (intentional) contrast is one of evacuated value.  From this point, one might begin correlating each painting. and the contrast, to the MAGA question. When did people think America was great and why do they think it WAS great? As in not great now.  Trump might not like either family, but if invited to dinner, which might be least likely to like him, which most?  Then you've got a conversation going about the politics of cultural change.

You could go that direction, or you could claim the Rockwell painting "racist" because Rockwell didn't include any non-whites in his ideal family. And whoever posted the picture must be racist too. I.e., posting a Rockwell painting of a white family would then be an example of racism that someone should call out.  But that's not really a conversation about the politics of cultural/political change.  

Quite sincerely, if you honestly believe this steaming pile of self justifying horse manure then I can see why conversations with you tend to get tedious and circuitous.  Pontification defined.





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MAGA - jj22 - 07-11-2019, 03:59 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-11-2019, 04:43 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-13-2019, 02:14 AM
RE: MAGA - Goalpost - 07-11-2019, 05:24 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-11-2019, 05:53 PM
RE: MAGA - 6andcounting - 07-11-2019, 06:39 PM
RE: MAGA - Benton - 07-12-2019, 02:10 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-12-2019, 11:10 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-12-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-12-2019, 11:29 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-12-2019, 11:44 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-12-2019, 11:58 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-12-2019, 02:19 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-12-2019, 03:03 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-12-2019, 03:39 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-13-2019, 01:24 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-13-2019, 02:06 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-16-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-12-2019, 11:59 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-12-2019, 11:15 AM
RE: MAGA - Nately120 - 07-11-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: MAGA - jason - 07-12-2019, 11:29 AM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-12-2019, 11:42 AM
RE: MAGA - jj22 - 07-15-2019, 10:25 AM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-15-2019, 02:22 PM
RE: MAGA - jason - 07-15-2019, 06:35 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-15-2019, 07:26 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-15-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: MAGA - jj22 - 07-15-2019, 05:05 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-15-2019, 06:14 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-15-2019, 06:22 PM
RE: MAGA - jj22 - 07-16-2019, 10:02 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-16-2019, 10:55 AM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 12:43 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-16-2019, 08:37 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-16-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-17-2019, 02:29 AM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-17-2019, 10:40 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-17-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: MAGA - Mike M (the other one) - 07-15-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: MAGA - BakertheBeast - 07-16-2019, 05:08 AM
RE: MAGA - jj22 - 07-16-2019, 11:59 AM
RE: MAGA - Belsnickel - 07-16-2019, 12:48 PM
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RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 01:19 PM
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RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-16-2019, 02:34 PM
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RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-16-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-16-2019, 03:01 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 04:01 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-16-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 04:25 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-16-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-16-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-16-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-16-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-16-2019, 08:35 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-16-2019, 09:36 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 09:54 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-16-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-17-2019, 12:04 AM
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RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-17-2019, 12:25 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-17-2019, 02:00 AM
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RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-17-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-17-2019, 01:48 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-17-2019, 01:55 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-17-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 03:00 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-17-2019, 05:34 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-17-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-17-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 05:39 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-17-2019, 06:12 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-18-2019, 03:49 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-18-2019, 03:35 AM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-16-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-16-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 04:37 PM
RE: MAGA - Belsnickel - 07-16-2019, 12:54 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 01:16 PM
RE: MAGA - Belsnickel - 07-16-2019, 01:30 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: MAGA - Belsnickel - 07-16-2019, 01:42 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-16-2019, 01:48 PM
RE: MAGA - jj22 - 07-16-2019, 02:36 PM
RE: MAGA - jj22 - 07-16-2019, 02:58 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 09:03 AM
RE: MAGA - Belsnickel - 07-17-2019, 12:34 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 12:47 PM
RE: MAGA - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-17-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 01:12 PM
RE: MAGA - Mike M (the other one) - 07-17-2019, 02:00 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 02:24 PM
RE: MAGA - bfine32 - 07-17-2019, 02:35 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-17-2019, 02:38 PM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-18-2019, 05:01 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-18-2019, 03:42 AM
RE: MAGA - jj22 - 07-18-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-18-2019, 11:06 AM
RE: MAGA - Belsnickel - 07-17-2019, 03:00 PM
RE: MAGA - Belsnickel - 07-18-2019, 09:01 AM
RE: MAGA - Dill - 07-18-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: MAGA - GMDino - 07-18-2019, 11:40 AM

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