The Mueller Report thread

[Belsnickel]

(07-24-2019, 11:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Lol, "exonerate"...   American system of justice "exonerates" no one.  The verdict is either guilty or not guilty.  There's no such thing as "exoneration" from a court, a prosecutor, or anyone.  It's only freakin' guilty, or not guilty..  If there wasn't enough evidence to refer for charges, then there's no crime to even be guilty or not guilty of.

Dude, I always thought that you were smarter than that??  

Actually, there is. However, it is something that comes after someone has been found guilty of a crime and then the verdict is reverse. That's the legal sense of the word. The word itself, though, is used in the context of the Mueller report simply to make explicit that the lack of indictment was not based on a lack of evidence.

The report itself lays out a plethora of evidence that could be used to indict. Enough, even, that I have heard several former federal prosecutors state that in their experience they would bring an indictment on three of the charges, even without an interview from Trump to get to intent. But, since Mueller knew from the onset that indictment was not going to be on the table thanks to the OLC memo, it wasn't on the menu. He could have literally had Trump tell him to his face that he was guilty of obstructing justice and there would be no indictment. He would have had the same conclusion in the second section of the report.

(07-24-2019, 11:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: Tell that to you boy Don Trump...he keeps saying it and everyone keeps saying he's wrong.  Just like I did.

"smarter"

Edit: My bad. I didn't know you were just parroting your boy.

Months after proclaiming "total exoneration," Trump now says Mueller "never had the right to exonerate." pic.twitter.com/tbxbjDp2oz

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 24, 2019

Parrots gonna parrot.

(07-25-2019, 10:31 AM)hollodero Wrote: But in that case, this is not true. That's not Mueller's fault, it's that DOJ policy that he cannot possibly put a sitting president before a court. Hence he could not accuse him of a crime, for the system would grant Trump no court and therefore no defense as would be designated and in order.

You can't compare that with the "normal" instance, for it is not. It's quite clear. Even if Mueller found evidence Trump shot someone in the street, had found a smoking gun and a hundred witnesses, he could lay ot that evidence, but could not have gone further as to "not exonerate" him and maybe charge him after he's out of office. That's the "American system" for presidents.

You nailed it, here. Pretty sad that you're understanding our system of government better than some of our own citizens.