"Well Regulated Militia"

[Belsnickel]

(08-06-2019, 10:35 AM)Au165 Wrote: That distrust of a standing army juxtaposed against our current massive standing army is why I think it's kind of comical. Side note, you can impose tyranny on an armed citizenry as long as their arms are lesser than those wishing to impose tyranny (See Syria).

Not inane, but in fact based in reality. Tell me a non 3rd world country that has been overthrown by citizens in the last 30 years without the assistance of the military? You can't, because it doesn't happen. Referencing military actions against governments who didn't possess dominant air superiority, complete control over communication networks, and artillery that can inflict devastating damage from miles away, is simply wishful thinking and furthering the delusion.

(08-06-2019, 10:46 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're both speaking like the military is a monolith in which every member thinks the same way.  In such a hypothetical scenario (and hopefully it stays that way) as we're discussing there would be considerable "defection" to the other side within the military as well.  After all, the military are all volunteer citizens.

I almost got into this in my post, but it was long enough as it was. In the case there is a rise of an autocratic leader, sure, you will have military and law enforcement that will side with them. There are always those that will do so for whatever reason. But there are many that sign up to protect, serve, and defend because they believe in doing just that for the people and the Constitution. They will side with the citizens of the country in the case of a revolution. There will be factions. That's how it always works.

(08-06-2019, 10:37 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Not to mention, the people in this country who are the most willing to fight the military in this scenario are the same ones who find it abhorrent that people would disrespect them by kneeling during the anthem.  So we are going to attempt to kill our military heroes now?  Or is this based upon the notion that as soon as they attack citizens they become evil and are now no longer our heroes?

This has always been the thing that has puzzled me. We have Gadsden license plates here in Virginia. I will see a Gadsden plate, a ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ sticker, then a thin blue line flag or Punisher skull with the blue line. I'm always thinking "who do you think is going to tread on you and/or try to come and take it?"