"Well Regulated Militia"

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(08-08-2019, 12:19 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: My thoughts on why people harp on it is perfectly represented in how your graph misrepresents gun violence.

Your graph is including suicides and accidents in "gun violence".

Why is that, I wonder? Why isn't drowning called "water violence", falls called "gravity violence", or vehicles called "vehicle violence"? Because there isn't an effort to play them up as much as possible. There isn't a single other category listed on your graph that has "violence" attached to it, even though that point includes people accidentally shooting themselves, or intentionally shooting themselves. Nobody ever has used the term "rope violence" in order to categorize people hanging themselves.

I also dispute the funding amount as well on your graph, as New York City, LA, and Chicago spent 7.84 billion dollars on funding their police forces in 2017. Expand that to every other city, expand it to include the ATFE (F being Firearms) funding, only $20 million of all that money goes towards researching ending firearm deaths? BS, man. They are constantly researching how to better catch criminals before they attack. Or how to better track gang members. That is also research on how to stop it.

It's a really bad graph.

By definition suicide is violence, so at best you're arguing that these numbers should not include accidental gun deaths. That doesn't change the fact that all gun related deaths need to be researched at similar levels to other causes of deaths. 

With regards to your belief that funding must be higher because cops get a lot of money... I am not sure I follow the logic there nor do I think your belief is enough to dismiss the findings of a study. Quantifiable data tends to be better than someone's hunch. 

It's a really bad argument.