08-12-2019, 04:08 PM
(08-12-2019, 04:00 PM)Au165 Wrote: ...No, not really. People kill themselves while on suicide watch all the time. They don't have video surveillance in all cells like you see in movies, mainly because it's too costly. The cameras in the hallways though would show who was there before and after. The reality was he was on 30 minute rounds, even though they weren't followed that night, but that in itself tells you they didn't consider him high risk as most places use 15 minute staggered rounds for high risk inmates. Side note, he was taken off suicide watch before he did it so there were plenty of things he could have used to hang himself.
All of this is, at least partially, true. But not in a "as high profile a case as it's possible to have" scenario like this. I worked in a detention facility. I sat on "one on one" cases. You never, ever, let them out of your sight. The 15 minute hall check is not sufficient for such cases and the fact that the didn't even have him on that, as you claim, would be further evidence of utter incompetence that just wouldn't happen with a case this huge.
Quote:People always look to circumstances and believe they signal foul play, but in many instances circumstances create opportunities for suicidal people to off themselves. It is kind of funny though, if everyone in the world thinks a guy committing suicide is obviously foul play and that he was killed don't you think someone with the means to do such a thin would have known that too? Wouldn't it have made more sense to have an inmate in prison kill him? If you had "dirty guards" it would have been easier to have him stabbed by an inmate during transport to another part of the prison, and then you could easily have the inmate claim he wanted the fame of killing a child predator (which is a real thing in prison).
You're utterly ignoring some huge facts. The surveillance system just happened to go out at that time? If Epstein was PC'd up, which would be another example of monstrous incompetence if he wasn't, then he's not getting killed by another inmate. Yes, killing pedophiles is a thing in prison, they are the lowest of the low in the prison culture, that doesn't explain this away. If you want to convince yourself this was just a plain old suicide then feel free, but the facts don't support it, at all.
