The Mueller Report thread

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(09-20-2019, 08:41 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I know more than most about how the sausage is made. It infuriates me, but I still want people held accountable because I do not accept it. It violates western democratic principles and the values our country found so important that we fought a war over to become independent.


Well, the Special Counsel investigation took less than two years. During which time, multiple charges were filed against individuals who could have charges filed against them. Since there are policies in place that prevent charges being filed against a sitting POTUS, whether or not charges could have been brought against Trump were he not POTUS there would never be any charges. A constitutional duty of Congress is to provide oversight of the Executive Branch, and therefore it is their job to take the facts of the report on the investigation and determine whether or not impeachment proceedings are appropriate based on those and any other information they may gather through their own investigations. That is where we are now. The cry that "no charges have been brought" is meaningless because plenty of people have been charged and the person that the investigation is really about it unable to be charged.

The counter argument just shows the tolerance for corruption that some people have when it comes to elected officials, especially those they tend to side with. I have a very low tolerance for corruption within government because I believe in the values of the Constitution that the government is by, of, and for the people. It is not for the elected officials in office, it is for the people. Corruption occurs when officials put their own interests above those of the people. Call me an idealist, but these lofty ideals of servant leadership are what founded this country and it's absolute bullshit how far we have come from that if we are willing to give that up.

As I said, we would all like to see people of power held accountable, but "until you've walked a mile in my shoes....." I know this sentiment speaks of "tolerance for corruption that some people have when it comes to elected officials, especially those they tend to side with." I've seen you mention Washington. How many people today would say he turned his back on our allies when he endorsed the Jay Treaty?  I want to see everyone be a boy-scout, but I also have to accept some ugly facts from time to time to maintain the balance.