Are there any optimists left?

[THE PISTONS]

(11-02-2019, 07:58 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: First five years : 7-9 one time ,8-8 three times and 11-5 once with Palmer pre injury. Not exactly HOF numbers. Zac may never do anything but to back bite him because of a shit storm of a team he took over this year seems a little unfair. Marvin and Andy are dead to us now. Get over it. Long live Zac and Ryan.

While no one thinks this is some great roster...it's also not a 0-8 roster. This team has vastly under-achieved.

Dalton needed benched. He actually had a clean pocket a decent bit, but either rushed throws or his mechanics broke down. He was seeing pressure that wasn't there. His pocket presence was bad too.

And Zac...likely needs to hire an OC IF he doesn't improve the rest of the year. He's just not a good playcaller. Hire an OC like Jay Gruden and focus on being a Head Coach.

On defense, it's honestly hard to evaluate what they need there. More speed at LB is the obvious answer. The scheme seems to have issues. The players have no fire. They get no pressure. They blow coverages. The miss tackles. Vigil and Brown both need replaced.

Marvin needed to go after the playoff meltdown against the Steelers so that a new HC would get a pretty good roster. But, the Bengals waited 3 years too long. Which illustrates a major issue...how many owners keep a HC that's 0-7 in the playoffs for 3 more years after that 7th loss?