The Abortion Question

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(10-09-2015, 01:33 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Who is The Decider when it comes to exceptions?

Good question. How about common sense? Considering most seem to be okay with having the exceptions for rape and incest, let's ban abortion except in the cases of rape and incest.

(10-09-2015, 03:46 PM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: As for the rest, until you prove that zygote=child/human being, everything you said is meaningless.

If left un-aborted, what happens to the zygote? I guess it just disappears? Or maybe it turns into a spare stomach or a third leg? I mean, it IS a part of the woman's body, right? So maybe it just becomes extra estrogen or something? Gee, does anyone know what happens to a zygote if we don't mess with it? OBVIOUSLY, it doesn't eventually exit the womb and become a person. I mean, if it did, then there shouldn't be a problem with people calling it a human being if so. :snark:

See, that's the crux of the matter. Pro choicers HAVE to convince people (and themselves, usually) that an unborn child in any stage of development post-conception is not a human until whatever they're uncomfortable with killing it. That's why you get uncomfortable when I and others continue to call it an unborn child and their deaths at your hands to be murder. That's why you have to come up with some convoluted rationale about viability or its humanity in order to justify what abortion really is: the systematic murder of unborn human beings.


Abortion ends the life of a human being. You don't want to call a zygote, embryo, fetus, etc a human being? Ok, but EVERYONE knows that you're keeping a human being from living. That's no different than a parent that refuses to feed their child and the child dies of hunger or of any other case of someone whose reckless actions led to the death of someone else and they were found guilty of murder.

(10-09-2015, 04:06 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: But your definition of murder is irrelevant. Lumping things you disagree with into the definition of murder is sensationalization just as it would be to lump things that aren't rape into the category of rape. 

Except it's not "sensationalization" if I'm defining my terms to you. I'm not calling it murder becuase it's murder or because I say so. I have logical reasons which I've again explained above.